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Living with spiritual beings
Interview with Verena Stael von Holstein
by Wolfgang Weirauch
Wolfgang Weirauch
born 1953 in Flensburg and studied politics, German literature, also making theological studies at the Free University of the Christian community in Stuttgart. Post Flensburger Hefte, a magazine on current issues and anthroposophic. 
Wolfgang Weirauch
born 1953 in Flensburg and studied politics, German literature, also making theological studies at the Free University of the Christian community in Stuttgart. Post Flensburger Hefte, a magazine on current issues and anthroposophic.
Baroness Verena Stael von Holstein was born in 1959 in Rendsburg, Germany, in an anthroposophical home. She attended the Waldorf School of Benefeld through high school. He studied engineering at the Technical University and Technical University of Berlin. After a brief dedication research, he specialized in hydrography. He worked in industry as a programmer and then entered public service.
second wife is married with two children. Since 1995 lives in the water mill, dedicated to their duties as mothers and housewives. Since 2000 began to document conversations with spiritual beings and / or elementary. They are always present Wolfgang Weirauch: When was the first time I consciously noticed the spirits of nature as a child?
Verena Staël von Holstein: I can not say exactly, because were always there. Must have been a process that gradually progressed to the pair of my awareness as a child. They were always around me, at certain stages appeared more clearly in others less so. With great intensity and sharpness is expressed at the time of my third to sixth year of primary school, while attending the Waldorf School of Benefeld. In that period I used to go to a grove of birch trees, in which he played with the spirits of nature.
WW: And this deal with them was something normal?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, that was part of my daily life, and I never questioned my ability special, but neither spoke to others about them. I do not know exactly when I began to perceive the elemental beings, I reckon it must have been in the third year of life, while still living in Rendsburg. I remember there was a large railway embankment, where I saw several things that scare me.
WW: He saw beings permanently or only on certain days or when left to nature? V. Staël von Holstein
: Always.
WW: Also inside the house?
V. Stael von Holstein: Not so clearly. The first were Railroad beings, then the beings of the birch. Birches beings are children or, in birch older, women. In the house had Benefeld beings, especially in the basement, but then did not play an important role for me. The entity of the spirit of the house just became clear to me in terms of importance here in the mill by Müller (N. del T.: "Müller", besides being a common name in German means "miller" ), the spirit of our house.
WW: When was the first time she spoke with others about the fact that you see something that others do not?
V. Staël von Holstein: I always knew what he saw. My parents and my grandmother were very open to these areas. My grandmother, born in 1886, also had access to the beings of nature - although more unconscious, she perceived in dreams. It was a very mental. She was petite and plump and a great grandmother used to tell lots of stories about the diverse natural beings. Especially after the death of my grandfather, she had much time for me, and through the games he has conveyed a lot about invisible beings.
WW: At that time you already assigned names or concept, unambiguous natural beings? V. Staël von Holstein: No, it just started here at the mill. I was able to differentiate, but not with the clarity of today. Meanwhile I understand that these beings nen own personalities.
first have to know your partner
WW: Have you ever failed to receive a temporary beings?
V. Staël von Holstein: No, but I always took care of them. Always see them, but during the study, for example, were no longer in the foreground. Later, for professional reasons, to spend much time on the water and there I came to perceive clearly the beings of nature. As an engineer in hydrography, I sailed on a research vessel by the North Sea and the Atlantic. Later I made my living as a programmer, and then in a work environment in which natural beings have little importance.
WW: Does the perception of natural things away by the dedication to the PC and the Internet?
V. Staël von Holstein: In my case, but is relegated to another plane. Occurs as the memories of childhood: one does not always think of them, but they are still there. I could always renew contact with the natural beings and especially when I was not good. In those cases sought, for example, contact with the beings of the trees. But that is complicated. One simply can not go, and lean against the trunk of a tree and expect something of the spirit of the tree or other nature spirits. It's not as simple as that. Spiritual beings first have to know your partner.
"Suddenly I realized that there was anyone present"
WW: When did you come here to this mill, and how you came into contact with spiritual beings of the place?
V. Staël von Holstein: During my pregnancy eight years ago contact with beings very markedly restored. When I was pregnant. produced a dramatic change. My in-laws lived here at the mill, which was very broken down. The father of my husband always had the hope - but not talked about the issue - that his son had an heir. By the time he learned and found that I was pregnant, stopped clinging to life and died in just three months. Declined rapidly and died without much suffering.
My mother could not care one property and animals, so my husband asked me if I would be willing to move with her to the mill. That's how I moved to a pregnancy advanced. About two months later my daughter was born, and shortly after began the closest contact with loved the place. Suddenly I felt there was anyone present who wanted something from me. Müller That was the spirit of the house.
beings of decay
And he confirmed that the decline beings, who shortly before had still been present in this water-mill, now gone.
WW: Did you had seen these creatures of the decline to move here?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes
WW: What did they look?
V. Staël von Holstein, were gray. Like cobwebs, not as veils of mist, but as webs of this world. In contrast, if you referred to the spiders in ethereal form, then shine like a prism. They are colorful and fascinating. That's probably the reason why so many people are scared of spiders.
WW: Why?
V. Staël von Holstein: Contemplating a spider, people perceive the ethereal, even if they can not see consciously.
WW: But a prism is not it something bright beautiful?
V. Staël von Holstein, of course, but one can also frightened face of overwhelming beauty. But mine is just a guess.
WW: When you realized that people of decay had left the mill, to put it. That way, was then produced the first contact with the spirit of the house, Müller?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, when I asked him his name, he said: "Müller". And just about two years later I realized the nexus between his behalf Müller ("miller" in German) and this mill. In the first two years was not aware of it. Sometimes you do not realize the most obvious things.
Learn a common language
WW: What was the first thing Muller said and what was the first thing I said the other beings that appeared gradually?
V. Staël von Holstein: First question: "What kind of man are you? Can you allow us to come to you?" They look at people and saw, for example, that I love my husband. Müller was important to observe how the change occurred in the management of this mill, that is how, after the death of my father, my husband and I took over the leadership of this house. Müller was also important for the relationship with my mother, because she lived, like my husband, a considerable drama. She has no relation to natural things or the suprasensory. My mother has caused damage to the house for his attitude, and Muller had a need to vent about it. Should learn to express concepts as close as possible to humans, to make it easier to understand.
The search for a better understanding between human beings and nature spirits was actually the first thing that united us. We had to find a common language. "What do you mean when you say` wood '? " This is a simple example. And when you replied, then he said that same thing he also called "wood." The question begins to get complicated with the concepts which are closely related to humans, such as: "What is 'soul'? Show me what you call 'soul'." Or: "Show me what you call 'beautiful'." Show the elemental beings that gives much brought. To do this, imagine how these concepts can be more plastic.
WW: Please tell how it communicates with natural things.
V. Staël von Holstein: At first I saw the natural spirits almost as concrete as a photo, and also drew. Then just talk naturally with them. The word spoken aloud is very important to them. Although not really necessary to communicate with the spirits of nature. However, the spoken word has a particular meaning for them, because every word changes the world. The word is a reality.
In August (1995 I moved to this mill. Over the years it was changing our level of communication. Now I perceive the nature spirits realizing, for example, exact location is Müller, even when not watching. I sense the presence of these beings. And then I contact them in a kind of formula. Formula is the most successful. When Müller want to tell my husband somewhere in the mill there is something to be repaired, then sent me a kind of formula, and I have to translate it into German. These beings do not speak German, even when their language is related to this region.
WW: Are only formulas or images also are concepts, or understanding or knowledge of what they say natural beings automatically enters your mind? V. Staël von Holstein: No pictures, but concepts and formulas. It's more than a bare concept is like a combination of formulas. Perhaps you could compare the three-dimensional model of the atom. More or less this is how you have to imagine what they say these things. WW: But how do you do to convert these formulas on the concepts of the German language?
V. Staël von Holstein: This is the great difficulty!
WW: Rudolf Steiner said something similar. He said his most difficult task was not to explore the regions of the spiritual world as a researcher spiritual, but to transform the concepts covered. V. Staël von Holstein: In this translation my husband is very helpful. Many times I stammer and stutter, and then he puts words and I say that this is still not the exact translation. Then he turns to choose a new formulation, and I tell him what is still inaccurate. This continues until we finally find the right words and concepts. Incidentally, when you're tired, contact with these beings is easier than when you're in full command of their mental capacities.
WW: Is that because the reasoning is a kind of barrier to these beings?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, the reason hinders most people
. Meanwhile I gained a lot of practice in dialogue with nature spirits, and usually I can maintain a conversation with them now as smooth as you
They can read the thoughts WW: After that you . to start express your questions and comments out loud, at one point that people also began to read his thoughts?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, I gave them permission to do so.
WW: Do you have a question to think intensively and in words, so that people understand it?
V. Staël von Holstein: If it is very important, should be expressed out loud. If for example one is harassed by one of them, then you should say loud and clear, "Go away." When it comes to less important matters of everyday issues in dealing with these creatures, enough to communicate with them mentally, when you know them well. But one must try to think of words, lest he miss the same thing just a thought by consciousness intensamene think in words. The thought must be embodied in the word.
WW: What about the confusion in the mental life and soul do not perceive it that way?
V. Staël von Holstein: That's irritating. We have chosen the term "linguistic waste."
WW: Are there laws among human beings and spiritual beings have to be met during the contact?
V. Staël von Holstein: Right we are dedicated to develop them. One should be sincere. Lying consumes the soul. We must try to consider the nature spirits and personalities, even if I do not have an equivalent to the human being. One should be aware that a small entity may also have character personal. But most important is honesty in the deal between them. Some also give spiritual value to manners, or you behave with kindness and for example say "please" and "thank you", but that is not common to all beings.
WW: So, you greet them and thank them when they talk to one person and say goodbye to them?
V. Stael von Holstein: Yes, I like a lot, especially when that ritual becomes a sort of rhythm. For our book project I realized that ceremony, but otherwise, in our daily dealings, do not comply with it. But when it comes the Great, and indeed his mere appearance is a type of ceremony.
WW: Are nature spirits are allowed to read without the thoughts of man?
V. Staël von Holstein: No, it is not automatic. First is a taboo and it needed to permit the human being, while the thought is still part and parcel of the person and is linked to their feelings. But when the thinking has evolved human being, entering the impersonal realm of thoughts, then naturally you can read it. The man is free, and they can not intervene without more human freedom. So the person must have accepted that these are res "the cross. "Human beings have to agree that the spirits of nature to read their thoughts along with the animated movement associated with them.
WW: But the man knows perhaps in what you're getting when you give that permission?
V. Staël von Holstein : Probably not. But still not a common practice for human beings and I just realized I have one or two or three people. Not everyone who visits us has to let go through these beings. you is only the third.
WW: Does that mean then, for this interview, that all these nature spirits can read my thoughts cer cone and my questions while I'm thinking?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, and even know their feelings.
WW: When you read a book, people involved in reading?
V. Staël von Holstein: Usually not.
WW: They are not interested or why not?
V. Staël von Holstein: When we read Steiner, they listen. When I read science fiction novels, at most, briefly look over my shoulder and start laughing mischievously. That's not interested.
natural beings have a hierarchy
WW: Can you make some classification of the spirits of nature? These beings have distinguishing criteria which are grouped?
V. Slaël von Holstein beings clearly are ordered hierarchically. A being home and Müller is higher (domestic leisure beings in this house. It is the summit of the hierarchy, and then have their subs, which are beings that are subordinate Ie, in a manner as straightforward as just occurred in human society in ancient times. They have to do what he tells Müller. And the hierarchical level of domestic beings is so much lower, the less important is their job. Beings are becoming more atomic. And Mueller is the highest in the hierarchy of domestic beings.
Something similar happens with the Greens, the beings of the plants. There is a hierarchy of spirits of plants, starting from the bottom with tiny creatures to satisfy the more limited tasks in the plant. On a larger scale in the hierarchy such beings operate a single plant. And a higher being is Gnunno, who must deal with an entire region. And this is only for plants, except for trees, because trees form a separate group. Gnunno forms the roof of a region, pro-(ego vegetal region. And then there is another being, which forms the link with the I plant, so it rises to the highest spiritual spheres, possibly to the so-called higher Devachan. Each field in nature, every plant, the sand, each river, the wind, it is this hierarchy, each being is at one level of the hierarchy.
WW: How many such beings belong to the hierarchy of this house?
V. Stael von Holstein: 16,743 - that's what I just said Müller. But the count has left out the most miniscule. In the case of them can not talk about personalities. Some are responsible for the door, others by the chairs, and others by the heat input.
Stable Muller's farm
elemental beings V. Staël von Holstein: No, they are an independent group. Elemental beings belong to the four elements - mineral, water, air, fire. Domestic beings are very similar to humans, yet are close to the gnomes. They can compare with humans. If one approaches, however, a being of fire, then it is a being very different. Also in case of fire beings there is a hierarchy: at the bottom are the beings of the flame of a candle in the superior beings from a house fire or even a volcano.
For water there are small children in the water, and then there is, for example, Nock, who is responsible for a very large region. We have a Nock here Etschewit, the Wet, which has its focus here. He really is a Elbnóck. It is a spirit that acts at a higher level, which sometimes scope reaches the North Sea. He also has many partners. Among men of stones occurs something similar, but in them that make the difference between people of the sand and stones. In reality, the sand is composed of small stones, but the sand has a different significance than a large stone.
WW: And what about the creatures of the air?
V. Stael von Holstein: Exactly the same. There is minimal air movement and beings that are responsible for them, and then there are, for example, hurricanes. The beings of air and wind are actually separate beings. Walliniju, which is present here, has jurisdiction over air and light level in this region. And the wind itself through the air and light field. The west wind comes from the Atlantic, whence, and goes, for example, to Russia.
What, Walliniju?
The Air: He returns to engender something new, it becomes a big wind, big wind and structures become weaker, until eventually disintegrate and become smaller structures. It's like a plot where the individual pieces are the starting point for a new plot. And in between is opened. Wind beings migrate with the wind, but do not die when the wind drops, but merely transformed.
Good and bad
WW: Is it possible to apply the categories of good and evil, these beings?
V. Staël von Holstein: No, these categories do not make sense in this context. The beings of the decline, for example, are needed. The decomposition of a dead animal in nature is certainly not a pretty sight for humans, but it is a necessity. Nature spirits do not differentiate between good and evil in the sense that we do. In reality they differ six categories:
dedicated to human beings with the intention to help;
beings dedicated humans with the intent to harm;
beings dedicated to the creation of the new;
beings dedicated to the demise of what exists;
beings dedicated to protecting,
beings dedicated to destroy.
WW: Anthroposophy mentioned for example enemies powers, talks about ghosts and demons or evil in general. From the point of view of the nature spirits present here, demons are not evil?
V. Staël von Holstein: These are people who are entirely tied to a downward trend, while beings present here are part of an upward trend. And the greatest exponents of the downward trend actually perceived by the spirits of nature as a kind of threat. Müller, for example, is so afraid of big, dark beings. Among these beings there is also fear. There are attacks on domestic spirits, that Mueller can not resist. Then you have to ally with other beings, and in that sense it is good that the diverse beings have their focus here on the mill. Here there is the singular phenomenon in the mill room you have just seen, there is a kind of community focus of many spirits of nature.
WW: They can be applied to natural spirits categories of male and female?
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, especially in the field of animal beings, because there are male and female animals. By the way, those are human categories, nature spirits can really only be characterized as tending male or female-prone. It's not as strong as in our case.
WW: What is, in fact, male and female nature?
V. Staël von Holstein: The expression or spiritual mark which amounts more to a woman or a man. Müller also can be very feminine at times. El Pardo, however, is very masculine. You can feel truly masculine, with a beard and everything else. In the elemental beings, such as sand, is completely absurd to talk of male and female beings. In any case, always keep in mind that these categories are projections of human beings and not from these beings.
subjective projections
WW: When you see one of these beings, can not be that you subjectively projected figure of that be? So, if you go to Brown in the form of a bearded man in the form of a pastor, can not be that that no more than subjective projection and see someone else completely different?
V. Staël von Holstein: Naturally, each person would see these things with a different look, but it would be completely different. Al Pardo surely everyone would see it as being masculine. Certain basic structures are maintained in a similar way, others are affected by the subjectivity of human being. Beings reflect what the human being radiates to them as representation.
beings also have their own humor. At Nock Etschewit, for example, likes to build suspense. He disguises. And it does, because it is fun. He manages to appear once one way and another, in a different way.
WW: Etschewit knows which is called as the Turkish prime minister still in office, at least in terms of pronunciation of the name? V. Stael von Holstein: Yes, I know. His real name is untranslatable, and much more length. Etschewit is a kind of contraction of the longer name.
A knowledge layer surrounds the Earth
WW: How are spiritual beings with each other? V. Staël von Holstein: That's a good question, and I can not answer con exactitud para todos los seres. No tengo una noción cabal de todos esos fenómenos. Algunos seres, por ejemplo Müller y Etschewit, están sentados uno al lado del otro y simplemente se comunican entre sí. Pero un ser del fuego, uego, por ejemplo, no se sienta al lado de otros espíritus de la naturaleza, sino que se presenta de otro modo. Me resulta muy difícil imaginarme cómo se comunica con los otros seres.
En este contexto siempre me viene a la mente el concepto de estrato terrestre. Existe una capa espiritual-etérea que cubre la Tierra como una delgada tela y también la atraviesa en una forma no descriptible en forma matemática. En esa capa está contenido el saber del mundo, also all the thoughts and actions (we humans are stored there. And if people so wish, are in that layer and communicate with each other. This layer covers the entire Earth, perhaps equivalent to the Akasha Chronicle Steiner described in detail.
WW: While you are talking to me now, while
perceived that many of these beings speak with you Would you say these things spontaneously penetrates you?
V . Staël von Holstein: Yes, it's like a conversation between people. Sometimes there are problems of understanding. usually arise, when dealing with human subjects, because for some of these areas nature spirits have no concepts.
R. Steiner
Humor and moral
WW: What kind of mood are elemental beings?
V. Staël von Holstein: They have much humor, love to make jokes. His humor does not always correspond to human morality. For example it may be that to them shall seem funny that you drop a milk jug on the foot. Self not find it so funny, but the spirits natural laugh hard for it. WW: How nature spirits laugh? How does your laughter? V. Staël von Holstein: It seems the airy sound of a bell, it is very pretty.
WW: "All people have that kind of humor and above all the gnomes?
V. Staël von Holstein: More than anything else is typical of Müller, while the Wet dressing has more fun. And the people of the flames can laugh out loud. When a fire spirit feels really good, then you can see almost physical eyes how to laugh through a flame. However when the air is satisfied, like a gentle blow breeze. El Pardo is relatively crude in its humor. And the joy of Grande is simply indescribable. In this case it seems that the whole world laugh. When the Great laughs, one can not help being happy.
WW: Are nature spirits have some kind of moral?
V. Staël von Holstein: Not at all. That's something you want to know about human beings: Why is a moral man? What do you want to justify it? They say that all our machines we manufacture on Earth in the next incarnation of the Earth planet will appear as natural entities. In it are something like a moral link.
WW: I know the link described by Rudolf Steiner.
V. Staël von Holstein: He also described him? I did not know.
WW: He says something similar to what is now the world of machines, in Jupiter - that is the name given Steiner to the next stage of evolution of the Earth - will become the foundation of existence. That foundation is certainly no physical-material nature.
V. Stael von Holstein: You also say that natural things, so they ask us to give you a beautiful setting on the machines.
WW: Steiner also said that all purely intellectual thoughts, with which only captures the coarse material, all automatic thoughts, reflections, not spiritually quickened in the 8 th millennium suddenly become spider-beings. These beings like automatons will mineral-vegetable existence, and will be endowed with a strong intellect, but also a terrible evil. Extend their networks worldwide and they will be trapped in those human beings who fail to ascend to the spiritual world.
(GA 204/1979/13.05.1921/pág. 244 f). But this is a very distant future. However, it can recognize the responsibility that humans have on all your thoughts and actions.
V. Staël von Holstein: The one that highlights this is the Great, but Etschewit, the Wet, talk about it. Until about the fifteenth century it was a kind of local god of this place, a Nock, who was revered by humans. The men of the past knew that here lived a Nock, and made him small offerings.
WW: Those offerings were related to the seasons or special circumstances?
V. Stael von Holstein: The offerings are delivered for example before the summer floods were always here, and for Christmas, winter solstice, with the request that the nock stays in place.
WW: Why Nock why he should stay in place for the winter?
V. Staël von Holstein: Back then people believed that the nocks, when he embarked on his regular trips, they had to go back. -
Do it again, Etschewit?
The Wet: We have no freedom. The attachment to the coordinates are becoming more rigid water for humans as they age Earth. Before the water beings could move permanently, if circumstances required it. Now you can not do. The older is the Earth, the more important is the point on Earth where we have our home and our mission.
The project libro
W.W.: ¿Cómo comenzó el proyecto de su libro? ¿Quién tuvo la idea?
V. Staël von Holstein: Todos juntos. Los espíritus de la naturaleza siempre mencionaban que en realidad querían llegar a una mayor cantidad de personas. Y finalmente preguntaron cómo se podía hacer eso. Entonces hicimos una especie de "tormenta de ideas". Una de las posibilidades hubiese consistido en traer muchas personas aquí, pero a mi marido no le gustaba esa perspectiva. Y entonces leí en una revista, que una mujer había pintado un ángel cada día y que eso la hizo tener muchas vivencias. Eso me conmovió profundamente.
Luego los espíritus de la naturaleza me preguntaron if we could do something similar, having a conversation a day. They believed that this could have an effect on several levels simultaneously. On the one hand his thoughts would spread over the world. On the other hand, I learn to meditate properly and keep in touch with nature spirits. In addition to all settle for something that is consistent with the spirit of the time. And so we decided to carry out this project book that you have now in your hands. Started on 1 March 2000. In the initial phase we analyze the best way to do it. WW: And how exactly to proceed? Were conversations like we are keeping now? Does your husband wrote down the dialogues?
V. Staël von Holstein: First we wanted to record conversations with a Dictaphone, and my husband was going to polish after stylistically. But that proved difficult to achieve, for several reasons. I could not handle properly with the device and was not satisfied with the situation. Then we bought a voice recognition program, or software with which you can dictate directly to your computer.
And once I had I used the voice recognition software, I could easily make my thoughts and dialogues with natural things. Then my husband processing texts. This had the advantage I could see immediately on the screen what he was saying. In a voice recorder is not what is said, and one can not even always be sure that you are actually recording. Also why you should check every so often, during our interview, if your burner is actually recording the talk, because they all look kindly on what we are doing here.
They are desperate
WW: Who would not look favorably upon what we intend to do?
V. Staël von Holstein: The opponents powers. They do not want the slightest information to pass from the spiritual realm of human consciousness, because people who know more easier to handle than they know. The spirits of nature who participate in our project want to convey this information. And above all want to meet their new masters. Angelic hierarchies are removed from the conduct of human beings, also direct influence on the elemental beings. They put the future shape of the earth more and more in the hands of humans.
WW: And humans do not understand the nature spirits! V. Staël von Holstein: Exactly. Humans do not make the slightest effort to understand the nature spirits. Usually up to ignore that they exist.
WW: That must be terrible for these beings.
V. Staël von Holstein: That is very terrible! Some are totally desperate. When you see an elemental being in despair, one feels a great sadness. Sometimes I even get to mourn.
next
Here we have the swamp. There reigns the "Swamp." He loved nature come from Hamburg, for example tree beings. They come here as elemental beings sick, tired, exhausted and distressed. And that happens, because humans do not pay attention, have no contact with them. Blind behavior that humans respond to the intention of the powers opponents, especially Ahrimanic beings. If human beings are blind to the link with the elemental beings, then Ahrimanic beings have the potential to interfere there.
why the spirits of nature are so desperately to announce their existence to humans. They should know (you its act and should be aware of their own actions. At last, after all, human beings are constantly producing natural beings through all their actions, thoughts and feelings. When humans intervene on plants and trees or build houses, they are always creating the most diverse natural beings with these efforts. And these things can be positive or negative in nature.
The project was
be prevented WW: But is the human being who decides what is to happen. Or do Ahrimanic beings have the power to prevent our project - the book and this interview - if we choose to do it?
V. Stael von Holstein: There were many pressures to halt the project, about you and about us. At this time we are under a silver dome, which is our personal shield. That shield was woven by the being of silver. Additionally we tone E flat as a bell on us. And finally, is also present the Great, to protect us. And to beat him, you have come a very big side.
WW: What was specifically what happened to prevent this project? V. Staël von Holstein: Many things that accumulated, but which do not want to talk now.
The nature spirits ask questions
WW: From one point of his proposed book, the nature spirits began to ask questions you and your husband. I infer from that that are keen to learn things about human beings that they do not understand.
V. Stael von Holstein, first asked permission to ask questions. They also asked if they could be present in everything that happened in the house because they are interested in everything that humans do. They want to know why humans brush their teeth and why they go to the bathroom. Because the spirits of nature do not go to the bathroom. We also want to know why we speak in those rare devices that record our voices, to be preserved. And then suggest whether it would be much easier to do the same through the aforementioned mechanism. Then
also interested in knowing what love is. And it's not easy to answer, when one would raise a question as comprehensive. They also made very specific questions such as why they had built a street in a certain place. As general also have specific requests related to the topic: "Can not tell human beings can not build here?" But in the meantime have understood that we as ordinary people have no influence. It was quite complex to understand that such a project can not be stopped without more, just because you do not like a mountain spirit. WW: In Iceland it is possible.
V. Staël von Holstein: Yes, indeed. Humans live there naturally with the elemental beings, with the "little people."
natural spirits sometimes ask us for advice on how to avoid projects concerned. But they also refer to things that are totally alien to human reach: "Do you really know what happens if you send a probe to Mars?" At first of course we have no answer to such questions. And then they ask us to find out what order to analyze them later.
WW: So that dialogue refers to a multitude of things of the corresponding area in the life of another, which will be different just understanding little by little. Surely at some rhomento also encounters a boundary,
V. Staël von Holstein: One comes across well-marked boundaries, especially with communication boundaries. Some things are impossible to explain to a being of fire, because they are not related to their nature. In such a case, people might keep silent out of politeness, but do not understand.
WW: Do you see that kind of courtesy?
V. Stael von Holstein: Yes, indeed. If you want to impress upon a being of fire that hurts me, if he gets too close, or if I touch a flame, then you may notified of the fact, but does not understand the situation because he wants me to express affection through this contact . Thus these creatures often have something very childish. That fire hurts is something incomprehensible to a being of fire. Because for a being of fire, the fire is spirit. Future and past
WW: What aspects of human being they are impossible to understand the nature spirits?
V. Stael von Holstein: particularly the freedom and everything to do with it. The same goes for love. They ask about the difference between nature spirits and human beings, want to know with accuracy what makes human beings human. I insist that human beings and nature spirits should walk the path towards the future together. They know that human beings expect something totally new.
WW: Can you look into the future?
V. Stael von Holstein: The Grande do it, and also Etschewit. But they can only do in a given context, because the future is open. The future is shaped by humans.
WW: But some things do not.
V. Staël von Holstein: This is getting very complicated. And details acts on the whole as the whole acts on the details. Time is a phenomenon related to humans. Natural things are out of time. Which expresses this most clearly is Kapuwu, the Stony. He speaks in a very strange time to express it somehow that everything has already happened, even while still in the future. Anyway
human beings can shape the future. They can even change the past.
WW: How do you do to change the past?
V. Stael von Holstein: living and shaping the future. If one wants to understand this really has to think very hard, up to the painful experience that you have to question the human consciousness. Because human beings are living only to itself in space and time. He has a conscience, limited objective, with which it perceives a present on time and terrain. But the nature spirits do not live in time. They live in this enduring spiritual, and it is open to eternity. It is difficult to imagine this particular. The past, present and future are always kept in balance, and when being done something in the human world, then adjust both the future and also the last for the spirits of nature. When one comes to understand this, then makes sense of the notion of time and eternity.
Humans are planted in
responsibility
WW: What impresses me most is the wall that currently separates human beings and nature spirits, and in particular the desperation of the spirits nature because human beings no longer perceive them. Can you describe that a little more artistically, so that readers will understand the responsibility we have today?
V. Staël von Holstein Without natural beings could not exist. All Earth disappear without action. They are constantly active in the creation and destruction of nature more minute on the ground as in the broader weather. Natural beings are incorporated into the overall context of wise nature. And that could act in conjunction with that wisdom, there was always an angelic being at the top of its hierarchy, or a higher standing, that somehow guided and led. They acted in accordance with the higher wisdom.
At present, the responsibility is shifting angels step by step toward human beings. They are responsible for nature, have to deal with Earth and nature. And they are responsible for their own thoughts, feelings and acts, which constantly create new beings. However, humans can only assume this responsibility, if they interact with the spirits of nature, if they know of its existence and its mission. And the spirits of nature need this interaction in order to accomplish their tasks for the good of the Earth and humanity. can compare the current situation of nature spirits to work in a company that no longer has a proper ride. Because the new leadership not is aware of its mission, the nature spirits are becoming more difficult to fulfill their tasks, and they are actually structured in such a way that need to be guided. Nature spirits that they want to confirm if what they do is done right. They want to know if your drive is still able to maintain the world. And now come the nature spirits and ask, "Am I doing it right, boss?" But the boss does not even know of its existence.
would therefore be good human beings gradually became more sensitive to certain perceptions. Then would notice that from time to time are driven by natural beings, to make them aware that they exist. Humans need to wake up, rethink your life and change their relationship with nature and nature spirits. From time to time human beings are in situations that amount to a warning. They can also be caused by angelic beings. Only human beings have to hear the signal, otherwise the call will terminate.
I have a good friend who is a forester by profession and that sometimes, when placed against a tree, has the feeling that someone is watching. This is the beginning of a relationship between a human and natural beings, contact still plays in an almost unconscious. Also There are people who have "green fingers" and act in harmony with these beings, even when they know nothing of them. But most, people are totally blind to natural beings, their actions and our relationship with them. And that has to change.
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